There is a significant
lapse in the time between when these questions are sent
in and when the answers appear in the Gazette newspaper and online. If
you feel your horse needs to be seen by a veterinarian do not wait for
a response. Call a reputable equine veterinarian in your area and let
him/her examine the horse! Dr. Mike Martin and Dr.
Betsy Mikkelsen,Retama
Equine Hospital
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“Please
remember, there
is a significant lapse between when these questions are sent in and
when the
answers appear.If you feel your horse
needs to be seen by a veterinarian, do not wait for a response. Call a
reputable
equine veterinarian in your area and let him or her examine your horse.This is advice only and not meant to be a
substitute for proper and prompt local veterinary care.
My horse
hasn't been eating her full meals for about the past 3-4 days. She'll
eat up to at most half of her food. She's showing no signs of
irritability or any other outer signs. What are some options I need to
try and what could possibly be the problem? – Brittany, submitted via
horsegazette.com
Dear Brittany,
Horses may go off feed for several reasons including pain, illness, or
stress. Pain can include mouth discomfort due to sharp points on
teeth, loose teeth, inflammation, or infection. Horses with
stomach ulcers may also not eat as well. A visit to your local
veterinarian for a thorough evaluation can hopefully rule out any
physical causes of pain. He or she will also be able to detect
any underlying illness which may be affecting how well your horse is
eating. Stressors may include being driven away from food by
pasture mates, being intimidated by a horse in a neighboring stall,
changing stabling situations, starting training, or any number of
scenarios. You should carefully evaluate what circumstances may
have changed that could have contributed to stress for your horse. You
should also have your horse’s diet evaluated by your veterinarian to
determine if it is appropriate for your particular horse. Your
veterinarian can help you evaluate your situation, and will be able to
give you some specific recommendations. – Dr. Symm
My horse is being boarded in a place that used the Cameo fencing for
the turnout. She got her leg caught in the fencing and panicked,
cutting through the tendons on her rear leg all the way to the bone. We
are not sure if she will ever be sound again. According to what I am
reading on the Web the monofilament line was supposed to give or break.
It didn't. How safe is this fencing for horses? I would hate to see any
other owner go through what I have. Thanks so much! Debby, submitted
via horsegazette.com
Dear Debby,
One thing that I have noticed is that horses seem to be able to hurt
themselves regardless of what we do to try to keep them safe.
With this in mind it may be possible that the fencing performed exactly
as advertised, but your horse still managed to hurt herself. I
have not had any personal experience with this fencing, nor have I
heard positive or negative reports about it before now. Since the
product was specifically developed as a safer alternative for equine
fencing, it is reasonable to assume that it went through a testing
period to determine how safe it really is. Information about this
particular fencing system can likely be obtained by contacting the
manufacturer, reading consumer reports, and consulting those who have
used or are currently using it. – Dr. Symm
We have a 19yr old miniature horse. She is in good health and
foals every year. This year she had a foal that had to be cut out
of her and she had a difficult birth with it. The colt’s head
fell down between its legs in the birth canal and the vet could not get
its head up. The colt died prior to having to cut the head
off. The mare did not tear during this procedure, and recovered
well. She did have a mild infection and had to be flushed out
twice. We waited a month prior to rebreeding her. Now she
is on her third time cycling and we can't get her bred back. Her cycles
are right on time (21-23) days and last 5-7 days, we are breeding her
every other day. Is there something else we can try or do you
suggest something else? Like I said she is in good health, cycles
regularly, and has had no problems prior to this. Should we stop
trying? Is it true that an older mare should be bred back every
year because if they are left open they are difficult to get bred
back? Thanks, Jason, submitted via horsegazette.com
Dear Jason,
It is true that older mares as well as barren mares have lower
pregnancy rates than younger mares and mares kept in foal every
year. However, there are other problems that mares can have that
will prevent them from getting pregnant. Any time a mare is
having difficulty getting in foal it is a good idea to have a breeding
soundness exam (BSE) performed by your equine veterinarian. A
thorough BSE may include performing a physical exam, evaluating her
external genitalia for defects (which could cause “wind-sucking” or
pneumovagina), doing a rectal ultrasound of the reproductive tract,
visualizing the cervix and uterus with a speculum, culturing a swab of
the uterine fluid, examining cells from the uterus, and/or submitting a
biopsy of uterine tissue. Blood tests may also be submitted to
check hormone levels. Additionally, it is important to ensure
that the stallion is fertile and that he appropriately ejaculates.
These steps will yield information that will help you and your
veterinarian know what to do to help your mare get in foal. It is
also possible that your mare’s uterus just needs more time to recover
after the traumatic delivery; sometimes as long as 6-12 months. – Dr.
Symm
I had a 5-year-old mare I raised. She was fat and happy and healthy, I
thought. Sunday she was running, playing and eating. Monday she
staggered back, by the time I got a halter and went to bring her up
front she was down. She never struggled or tried to get up.
There was no response from her. We gave her a shot and she didn’t even
flinch. She was line in a coma. She died last night. Any
ideas what could have happened to her? – Susan, submitted via
horsegazette.com
Dear Susan,
There are many causes of sudden death in horses. Without knowing
her vaccination history, witnessing the events, having a veterinarian
perform a necropsy (animal autopsy), and/or submitting fluids and
tissues for laboratory analysis it is not possible to know what caused
your mare to collapse and ultimately die. The “staggering” you
mentioned supports the possibility of a nervous system disorder, but it
may be related to any number of conditions. Some possibilities could
include viral infections, bacterial infections, colic, and
trauma. You should have your veterinarian evaluate your
vaccination schedule. If any other nearby horse develops
unusual behavior, it is a good idea for that horse to see a
veterinarian. There is the possibility that your mare may have
acquired a contagious disease or may have been exposed to a toxin that
could affect other horses. – Dr. Symm
You can call Dr. Symm at Retama Equine Hospital
210-651-6375 or visit www.RetamaEquineHospital.com. You can also visit
www.horsegazette.com/vet.html to view past questions or to send in a
new question.
I have
been boarding my 11-year-old registered Appaloosa gelding for 5
years. We built a stable for him and he came home April 30.
To prepare the site location for the stable, we had to cut into a
slope. That slope is bare (except for some small roots) and has a
good bit of clay and shale. I introduced new hay
(orchard/timothy) and grain (Purina low carb) slowly before I brought
him home so he wouldn't have a reaction to the sudden change. My
horse has been eating the dirt and shale. I know horses seek out
minerals if they are lacking them. I also read horses will eat
dirt to settle an upset stomach. What I'm not sure about is why
he "yawns" excessively. I did read they "yawn" if they have a
sick stomach as well. His gut sounds are good and his vitals are
good and his urinating and manure are normal. Should I be
concerned about him being obsessed with eating the "bank" and
"yawning"? Thank you for your time. Pam, submitted via
horsegazette.com
Dear Pam, Different
horses will exhibit various signs indicating abdominal discomfort. I am
not able to say that yawning is directly correlated with abdominal
discomfort, but if it becomes excessive you should have your local
veterinarian examine your horse. They might want to do blood work to
check organ function (especially the liver) and/or a fecal examination
to look for sand and parasites. Your veterinarian may also want to
evaluate your horse’s diet to ensure that he is getting the minerals
that he needs. Consuming soil is commonly due to boredom.
It can lead to problems (including colic) and should be something to be
concerned about. Eating dirt can sometimes be prevented by feeding a
steady supply of good quality hay in a manger over a mat to prevent him
from eating off the ground. Additionally, a balanced diet and plenty of
activity and routine exercise will likely decrease the amount of soil
he ingests. Some horses unfortunately have to wear muzzles to
prevent them from eating dirt. - William A. Symm DVM, Diplomate ACVS,
Retama Equine Hospital, Inc.
I have
been treating my horse for laminitis; how long should I keep him away
from grass? Kristi, submitted via horsegazette.com
Dear
Kristi, Depending
upon the initial cause of the laminitis and the metabolism of your
horse you may need to always keep your horse away from lush green
grass. It is not uncommon for lamanitic horses to have bouts of
laminitis in the spring time when rain causes a rapid increase in new
pasture growth. To get specific recommendations, consult with your
local veterinarian after he or she has examined your horse. - William
A. Symm DVM, Diplomate ACVS, Retama Equine Hospital, Inc.
My
12-year-old Arabian gelding has just recovered from Strangles. He
lost 50-75 lbs. How long should I wait to start riding, provided
he starts putting back on the weight? He has a great appetite. –
Diane submitted via horsegazette.com
Dear Diane, Having a
veterinarian examine your horse is the best way to determine his
current health status and to come up with a plan to return him to
exercise. Horses that return to work too soon after being sick can
develop complications, which can prolong the illness and potentially
lead to severe long term disability. It is a good sign that he has a
great appetite. With a little patience he will likely be able to
return to work soon. - William A. Symm DVM, Diplomate ACVS, Retama
Equine Hospital, Inc.
What is
the occurrence of twin (horses) born per 1000 births? What
is occurrence of (horse) twins conceived per 1000? – Mary, submitted
via horsegazette.com
Dear Mary, The
occurrence of twins in horses varies depending upon the breed.
Out of 1000 pregnant mares, approximately 78 will conceive twins.
Seven of these mares will deliver full term twins, but only one set of
twins will be born alive. It is common for these live twins to be under
developed. It is important to understand that complications are
very likely with twin pregnancies. Complications may include:
late-term abortion, difficult delivery, retained placenta, delayed
healing of the uterus, and death of one or both twins. Therefore, it is
very important to work with your local veterinarian to monitor early
pregnancy for the need for possible intervention. - William A.
Symm DVM, Diplomate ACVS, Retama Equine Hospital, Inc.
Hi there, I am
hoping you can help, I have a mini horse who choked a little while back
and got nerve damage of the tongue, he cant stick his tongue back into
his mouth, which makes it very hard (nearly impossible) for him to eat.
He is only 1 year old and I would like to know what I can do. He spent
3 nights at the vet and they said bring him back home and hopefully in
time it will correct itself, but it hasn’t. Any suggestions would be
great. Thank you for your time. – Cecelia, submitted via
horsegazette.com
Dear
Cecelia, If the
assumption is made that the cause for the tongue problem is truly due
to nerve damage it may take several months for the nerve function to
return or improve at all. This is also assuming that the cause of
the initial problem has been resolved. A significant concern is making
sure that your horse gets enough to eat during this waiting
period. Your veterinarian will have dietary recommendations that
may help, recommendations may include feeding gruels. Your horse
likely needs to be monitored closely by your local veterinarian.
He or she may determine that additional treatment needs to be pursued.
- William A. Symm DVM, Diplomate ACVS, Retama Equine Hospital, Inc.
Foot
Imbalance
Hi, I was just
wondering if you could help me regarding a question? I was looking at a
horse to buy however the owner said she has a slight foot imbalance.
What exactly is this? Will it get worse with age? She is currently
8-years-old. Can you ride them a lot with this problem or do they keep
going lame? Will it be costly? Louis Strachan, submitted via
HorseGazette.com
Dear Louis, Foot
imbalance is usually a term used to describe foot conformation.
Commonly it is used when there are differences in the shape and length
of the heels of one foot, but it is also used to describe differences
between two different feet. Some veterinarians and farriers also talk
about overall balance of the foot, in relation to shape of the sole.
Many horses have imperfections in foot balance that they can tolerate
with corrective trimming and shoeing, while others have chronic and
sometimes debilitating lameness associated with the imbalance. If you
are considering the purchase of any horse, particularly one that might
have pre-existing problems, it would be wise to consider having your
veterinarian perform a pre-purchase examination. - Dr. William Symm
Tick
Infection
In my riding lesson on Monday my horse had some muscle soreness.
My instructor discovered a dead tick on my horse’s leg right above the
hock (the same leg he was sore in) the site of the tick was full of pus
and it was red and sensitive to the touch. Is this a bad thing?
What should I do? – Samantha. P.S.- I put antibacterial ointment on the
cut and it's looking a little better
Dear
Samantha, The muscle
soreness is probably not related, but without any additional
information it would be impossible to say for sure. As you already did,
treating any wound by thorough cleaning and application of an
antibiotic ointment are the best ways to get a wound to heal. If you
continue to have indications of muscle soreness, any increase in
discharge, heat, pain and/or swelling, contact your veterinarian as
soon as possible. - Dr. William Symm
Keeping
38-Year-Old Happy & Healthy
I have a 38 yr old quarter horse gelding that has been beyond health
for his age. Even right now, he is holding his weight well, and has a
fairly decent appetite. But, about two weeks ago he started spending a
lot of time laying down flat on his side, which isn’t something he has
ever really done much of. I wouldn’t be too concerned with it normally,
but he has a VERY difficult time getting up. He is fine on his front
legs, but his back legs don't seem to want to stay underneath him. I've
tried talking to a vet, but they all look at me like it's a waste of
time considering his age. My biggest concern is keeping him happy and
comfortable. He still has plenty of spark in his eyes, and once he is
up he gets around ok. He gets senior feed and supplements, and the
occasional bute to help his joints. Do you have any suggestions, or
could this simply be a sign that it's his time? When he's down, he acts
like he wants to get up, but then, he sort of "gives up" like he
doesn’t want to try anymore. I hate seeing him this way, as he has been
my partner for an incredibly long time now and I want to do what is
truly best for him. Thank you for your help! – Katie, submitted via
HorseGazette.com
Dear Katie, Many
horses live to be 25-30 years old, while a select few live to be in
their 40’s. Frequently, as you have noticed, horses that get to be your
horse’s age will develop musculoskeletal pain. You might consider
speaking to your veterinarian about some of the other joint supplements
that are available to help alleviate his joint pain. Considering that
your horse has been your companion for almost 40 years I can understand
your concern in seeing him decline. Even though it might be very
difficult to accept it is often in your friend’s best interest to let
them go before they get into a situation where they can’t get up and
suffer an agonizing death waiting for help. Veterinarians use
guidelines to help people make decisions on when it might be time to
end the suffering of their pets and could likely help you make the
right decision. - Dr. William Symm
Horse
Hangs His Tongue Hi, I have a
horse that I purchased that hangs his tongue out while riding, he will
also, do this when fighting or playing with the other horse
loose, is there anything that I can do for this habit?
Thanks, Susie Kendall
Dear Susie, Some
horses will hang their tongues when exercising. It is unlikely that
there is any sort of particular cause for this, but you should have
your veterinarian examine him and possibly look in his mouth. You might
also consider changing the bridle that you use. - Dr. William Symm
Losing
Hair on Hind Legs
I have a mare that foaled 10 days ago she has had trouble with back
legs and now she is loosing her hair and I don’t know what to do. First
they said she had straw burn, took that out and she is still loosing
her hair and having trouble with legs. I am at my wits end help. –
Sharon, submitted via HorseGazette.com
It is not uncommon for mares to exhibit some signs of ataxia or
clumsiness in the back legs after foaling, particularly if the mare had
any difficulty or labor was prolonged. Sometimes if mares are not
washed off after foaling they can get some skin scalding and lose some
hair from the normal foaling discharge. However, if you are still
having problems with ataxia and scalding 10 days after foaling you
should consult with a veterinarian and get a neurologic evaluation.
Also, the veterinarian might want to know what you are and have been
feeding your mare. Sometimes feeding sorghum grasses can cause mares to
develop hind limb ataxia and to develop cystitis, which can result in
significant scalding of the perineum.
Drainage from old Wound
I have a horse who got caught in barbed wire last fall. A barb
stuck in her shoulder and peeled a flap of skin back about 3
inches. I had the flap sewn back down, and it healed beautifully
without a scar. However, for the past couple of months there has
been a small amount of clear odorless drainage at the point where the
barb initially penetrated. I asked my vet and they said not to
worry about it, but now she has started behaving differently. She still
seems healthy in every way, her coat shines, she eats great (maybe too
great, she is an easy keeper and is lots fatter than the others) but
she seems listless, and doesn’t want to work when I am riding
her. She also separates herself from the others. I tried
getting her bred by AI last summer, but she came up open at the 15 day
ultrasound, and has been coming into heat regularly since then.
Is it possible that the ultrasound was wrong, or do you think her
behaviour is due to an infection? Thanks! Adele, submitted via
HorseGazette.com
It is unlikely that the ultrasound was wrong if a veterinarian
performed the ultrasound exam. Also, if the mare is showing signs of
heat it is very likely that the mare is indeed open or not pregnant.
Certainly an infection could cause a horse to act depressed and exhibit
the type of behavior you are describing, but typically horses that have
an infection of some sort will go off feed and develop a fever. If
possible you should ask your veterinarian to examine the horse and
possibly check blood work to make sure there is not an infection. Also,
it would not be a bad idea to do a recheck exam and if the mare is open
do a uterine culture, biopsy and cytology to try and determine the
mare’s reproductive status.
Buggy Ears
There are bugs flying out of my pony’s ear and we have just noticed
this now and the bugs are causing irritation and bleeding. What are
these bugs called so I can get medication for my pony? – Carol Pitts,
submitted via HorseGazette.com
Depending upon what part of the country you live in and what time of
year it is there could be many different insects harassing your horse’s
ears. Often a pymethrin based fly repellent cream applied around the
edges of the ears will be sufficient to repel most insects. However, if
the sores in the ears are significant enough they might require
veterinary attention for examination, treatment and prevention of
getting worse.
No Diagnosis on Death of Horse
The horse has been put down. Q was a NSH. Age
14. He was asymetrical - head and tail slightly cocked to
the left. Hard to keep on weight. Cinchy. But a
wonderful around horse to ride. He was awesome as a 4H
horse. Q was ridden one day for several hours.
The next morning, he could not raise his head - yet continued to
eat. He appeared to be slightly swollen at the throat.
Within 30 minutes he was on the ground, having difficulty
breathing. A vet had been called - we had to wait about an
hour. In the meantime, his trainer and a neighbor put a tube down
his nose to assist his breathing. When the vet arrived, he was
immediately given 4 - 5 shots. Not sure exactly what - something to
assist respiration, cortisone, diuretic, . . .. ?
Breathing appeared to improve. No temperature. Slightly
raised heart rate. But not with it. In about an hour, he
was still down, seemed to perk up a little. He recognized there
were people around. Then he struggled to get up. He would
fall hard. The vet had left, but then came back in about 1.5
hours. In his falling, he hit himself in the face with his own
hind leg. Twice he fell hard - face straight into the ground. Vet
noticed - no muscle 'twitch' in the back half of his body. He
could move but couldn't feel? Finally in his falling, he broke his leg,
and had to be put down. His head cradled in his 18 year old
owner's lap. No blood work was sent to the lab. No
diagnosis. Perhaps some sort of allergic reaction? He was
put down about 3 weeks ago - so we haven't seen the bill to see if
there is any more information. We only have 2 large animal vets
in town, and I really don't like either one. This one
DOESN'T TALK! What could happen like this so fast?
(This whole awful ordeal took about 4.5 hours)What could this possibly
be? Thanks. Kris, submitted via HorseGazette.com
There are a plethora of things that could have resulted in the untimely
death of this horse, but the best chances of ascertaining what actually
lead to his demise is contacting the veterinarian that examined and
treated the horse.
Regulatory Control of Supplements
I am seeing so much bad advice being given over the internet to people
in emergency situations. For example, someone came onto a
discussion board indicating that their horse was colicing. She
then asked if she could give Banamine along with a supplement.
She was told by many to contact the owner of the supplement company and
he would tell her how to give the supplement with the Banamine.
Would that be giving veterinary advice given the situation? What
if the horse died, would the owner of the supplement company be
liable? Is there anything being done to regulate these supplement
companies and what they can or cannot state? Nona Yaron, submitted via
www.horsegazette.com
Dear Nona,
You would have to ask an attorney about the specific liabilities in the
scenario that you pose; however in the litigious society that we live
in I am certain a suit could be filed if something adverse
happened. Supplements and other neutroceuticals have limited
regulatory control over quality control and efficacy, so as consumers
we all should be careful with their use in our pets and ourselves for
that matter. – Dr. Symm
Large Bumps that Resemble Pimples
My 5 yr old quarter horse has bumps in his nose that resemble large
pimples. One has broken open and bled. What are they and what should I
do? Joanne Steiger, submitted via www.horsegazette.com
Dear Joanne,
One thing that might cause bumps on the nose that bleed is warts.
Usually warts are in younger horses and are self limiting. I
would recommend you have a veterinarian examine the horse. – Dr. Symm
Roach Back Horse
I recently acquired a horse with what I now understand is roach
back. What could I expect from him as far as soundness. He is a
trained western pleasure horse and seems to be very good at it. I've
had a massage person massage him and try to relax his muscles. He seem
to be a little uptight and when I got him a little sore in his
back. After the massage he seems to be somewhat better.
What are your recommendations? Sharon Neumann, submitted via
www.horsegazette.com
Dear Sharon,
A horse with a “roach back” can have soundness problems associated with
his back, but commonly back soreness is secondary to some other
problem. The two most common causes of back soreness are a poor
fitting saddle and lameness. A lameness that can often cause a
horse to have a sore back is one associated with hock pain,
particularly in this type of horse. Have your veterinarian and a
qualified person help you fit your horse in a good saddle and try not
to overlook other problems that might be causing the back soreness. –
Dr. Symm
Calm Horse Turned Skittish
I have a 4-year-old miniature horse who is extremely calm until
recently. He is very skittish. He pulled a cart all last show season
but now will not go near it or anything else. He recently (Feb. 28, 08)
had his spring shots what could cause such a sudden change in behavior?
Linda Poney, submitted via www.horsegazette.com.
Dear Linda,
It is highly unlikely that the vaccines would cause this type of
behavioral change. It is more likely a training issue that needs
to be worked on. However, make sure and check your tack to find any
possible causes for the behavior. – Dr. Symm
Extremely Gassy Horse
I have a 3-year-old that I bred and raised. He has been extremely
gassy since he was around 2 months old. He has been on 12%
pelleted feed, an alfalfa timothy mix hay, and free choice pasture
until 4 months ago when he went into training. I thought maybe
the change of feed would stop the gas problem, but it has not, it has
not gotten any worse though either. I have had him checked by our
vet several times and his gut sounds are normal. He has never
coliced or had any other digestive problems. Is there anything
else that I should have checked, could this be a serious problem?
My vet said that it is strange but cannot think of a root cause.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Melissa Beckman,
submitted via www.horsegazette.com
Dear Melissa,
Many horses expel tremendous amounts of gas and certainly dietary
changes can lead to intermittent increases in gas production.
Typically flatulence is a good thing in horses and would likely not be
a medical concern. You might consider talking to your
veterinarian about treating your horse with a dietary conditioner
and/or with a probiotic. Even though we often correlate excess
gas with colic, there is unfortunately not much more than just keeping
your horse’s diet consistent to minimize it. – Dr. Symm
Flapping
Lips
I purchased two 2-year-old old fillies in October/2007. A buckskin and
the other a paint. Both have been doing great until recently the
buckskin has been not using her lips to take treats out of my hand. She
uses her teeth to get the treats. Her lips are just flapping there.
When I first got them the buckskin used her lips to take the treats.
The paint is having no problems at all. Could she be just lazy or is
this a sign of something more serious. – Janet, sent via email March
2008
It is probably nothing to worry about. If you are concerned have your
veterinarian examine her. There is an outside possibility that it could
be an early indicator of neurologic disease. EPM, Rhino etc. are all
possibilities but remote possibilities. Dr. Martin
Scabby, Oozing Rash
I have a 7 yr old TWH gelding that has come down with scabby oozing
rash on his sheath and girth area last year. This year he has
contracted it again only this time it is all over his body. Quarter
size bumps with oozing scabs. He is very sensitive. We have treated him
with antifungal and antihistamines. The body lumps are gone but the
girth area and sheath area are still oozing and sensitive. The scraping
came back fungal but the antifungal is not helping anymore. My vet is
still looking for answers. He is stalled with daily turnout in a
semi-wooded pasture and fed Strategy and grass/alfalfa mix hay. He is
my search and rescue horse and he is out of commission for than
rideable. Thank you, Susan sent via email March 2008
A biopsy and allergy testing might be helpful in determining what is
causing the “rash”. Environmental allergens, such as insects or pollens
might be the root cause of this condition. The fungal infection might
be a secondary issue. Dr Symm
Left Hind Leg Thru Hog Wire Fence
On the 11th of March I found my 5 year old rope horse with both hind
feet kicked thru some hog wire fence it took 15 cuts with a wire cutter
to remove the hog wire and the two strands of barb wire he did not cut
any arteries and had no deep cuts at all my concern it his left hind
leg was suspended in the wire and the rings around his thigh and lower
leg were pretty deep there is no hair on either leg from the thigh to
the hoof I have taken him the vet here in our area and he won't say as
to the damage because of what we can't tell yet his legs aren't swelled
up yet and that is what the Vet is worried about . My question to you
is how much pressure the wire caused and what you think his chances
are. Thanks, Doug, submitted via email March 2008
Without examining the horse it is hard to say. Radiographs and an
ultrasound of the leg could be helpful. Talk to your vet about a course
of action if you have concerns. Dr. Martin
Growing Mane Back Quickly
My daughters pony has a lovely mane and tail - unfortunately due to him
wearing his rugs the mane from the withers to probably 12 inches up has
nearly gone - the rest looking fab...are there any solutions out there
that would bring this mane back within a couple of months? Carol,
submitted March 2008
If I knew a solution for hair growth I would use it on my head!!
Unfortunately to my knowledge there is nothing available that would
solve this problem. Time is the key here. Hair only grows so fast and
it is hard to speed up that process. Dr. Martin
West Nile Vaccines
This is a question about West Nile Vaccine. We have been vaccinating
our horses for West Nile since 2005. We have always used Recombitek
Equine West Nile Vaccine, which I believe is a modified live vaccine.
But this year I ordered Fort Dodge West Nile-Innovator, which I believe
is a killed...my question is can I just give their annually
revaccination or do I since this is a different type have to give two
doses, as if I were starting over? Thank you, Charlene, submitted via
email March 2008
As you mentioned the vaccines are different, thus they impart their
protection differently. Fort Dodge does recommend giving horses a
booster, even if they have been appropriately vaccinated with a
different vaccine in the past. Dr. Symm
Fever and Swelling
My 8 year old thoroughbred has never been raced, and as far as we know
has no prior injuries. However, over the weekend he had a fever of 103,
and swelling in his left fore just below the knee (around the tendon).
We are completely baffled by this. Any suggestions? He does not seem to
favor his leg, and after a round of antibiotics, seems to be feeling
better in terms of the fever. Thank you, Alyssa, submitted via email
March 2008
I do not know whether the fever and the swollen leg are related. I do
know that I would have the horse examines by your veterinarian. It is
possible that he bowed a tendon or has a puncture wound or something of
that nature. Bowed tendons by themselves usually do not cause a fever.
But with a fever and a swollen limb I would want your vet to examine
the horse immediately. Dr. Martin
Older Horse Doesn’t Gain Weight
I have a 21-years-old QH gelding. I've had him since he was 5
years old. He's now retired and lives with my sister in SC (I'm
up in Mass.). He had a stifle injury, and after that, arthritis
set in, but he seems to be happy, and he plays with his two
pasturemates. The thing that's bothering me is that he cannot
gain any weight. He's very well-fed, is given a fat supplement,
is on medication for his arthritis, and I've had him vetted out with
blood tests. He's on a regular farrier schedule, shot schedule,
teeth floating, etc. This horse is provided with everything he
needs. However, I cannot get him to gain weight, and his body
condition is incredibly poor. My question is, when is he "too
skinny" that I might have to consider putting him down? Should I
even link euthansia to his body condition or should I wait until I see
his mental health (or organs) start to fail? It's not easy
getting old, for man OR beast! Thank you very much for your time,
Nita. Submitted via email March 2008.
Certainly body condition is a reflection of your horse’s general
health. The National Research Council has published a set of guidelines
in the “Nutrient Requirements of Horses” that help objectively evaluate
your horse’s condition. This score can then be used to help determine
where your horse is and then enable you and your veterinarian to track
how your horse is doing. Also, a weight tape can be used to accurately
estimate your horse’s weight. Adding calorie dense supplements like
corn oil and rice bran to the diet can help add condition to horses of
any age. It is important to work closely with your veterinarian while
trying to get weight on your older horse. Dr. Symm
My horse (6 y/o
spotted saddle) has a large lump under his chin. I just noticed this
today and can't tell how long he's had it. He's due for his teeth
to be floated. Could it be a tooth infection or maybe it's a
swollen gland fighting off infection? Thank you, Selma Galev
Dear Selma,
Both answers are possible, but more information is required to be
certain. Depending on where exactly the lump is several different
actions could be taken. If the mass is large and moveable, or not
attached to the bone, a thorough examination and possibly a biopsy or
needle aspirate would be indicated. Additionally radiographs
might be helpful to determine whether or not the swelling is osseous or
of bone origin. Frequently the submandibular lymph nodes will
swell or enlarge when there is inflammation somewhere in the head, for
example from oral ulcers due to sharp enamel points on the cheek
teeth. Another potential cause could be a lymph node abscess due
to Strep. equii (“Strangles”), which would require additional
precautions and diagnostics. The probability is that the swelling
is of benign origin and if you have the horse examined by a
veterinarian, there might be a simple explanation and/or solution for
the swelling.
I have a five yr old QH gelding (HYPP N/H) that has lost weight over
the winter, due to being in a bare pasture. He needs to gain about
150-200 pounds. My question is, what kind of weight builder is safe for
an HYPP horse? He is currently getting 3 pounds of Strategy a day, and
he will be getting hay next week. Thanks, J.Batten
Dear J,
The condition HYPP is a genetic disorder that results in periodic
elevations in serum potassium levels that subsequently can be
debilitating and life threatening at times. The condition can
often be successfully managed through careful management of the horse’s
diet, exercise routine and proper veterinary care. I recommend
you have a veterinarian help you make any management changes for your
horse, as any change can cause an increase in frequency and severity of
HYPP attacks. Basic dietary recommendations for feeding an HYPP
horse are to limit its dietary intake of potassium. Things which
are high in potassium, like; molasses, alfalfa and most electrolyte
supplements should be avoided. This list precludes you adding
additional calories to your horse’s diet by increasing his grain intake
due to the molasses found in most grains. Three pounds of
Strategy is not a sufficient quantity to make him gain weight, but be
careful adding more of this feed to his diet too rapidly due to its
molasses content, which is high in potassium. The basis of your
horse’s diet should be a high quality grass hay and oats. A
calorie dense supplement that you can add is corn oil, without adding
much unwanted potassium. Total potassium in his diet should not
exceed 1-1.5%. In order to determine how much he is to get you
will need to have his diet analyzed. Generally speaking a horse
should consume 1.5-2% of body weight in roughage per day and should not
consume more than 0.5% of body weight (5 pounds/1000 pound horse) in
grain per meal. These are rough guidelines and you might have to
feed him differently to get him to gain weight. Keeping his
routine consistent to minimize stress and feeding him smaller more
frequent meals can help decrease the risk of attacks. In working
with your local veterinarian and local or state extension specialist
you will likely be able to formulate a plan for you horse’s needs.
I have two horses that turned up lame today in the same leg same area.
(The felt lock) The first was dead lame when I went to feed. The second
was lame in the exact same way as the first after my daughter started
to trot him. There was swelling and no neat. I ran cold water over the
swelling 3x for about 20min. Gave banimine once to both of them at
10:00AM by 7:00PM swelling has gone down a lot and they were putting
weight on it. Not 100% sound but feeling much better. Question. Do you
think that it was just a coincidence that they were both lame the same
way or could it be some type of virus?? I looked for wounds there were
none. No sign of any bits etc. I just find the whole thing very
odd! L. Papes
Dear L.
Most likely a coincidence, but not outside the realm of possibilities
that these horses reacted to something in there environment and/or
encountered an infectious agent. If the swelling and/or lameness
return I recommend that you have a veterinarian examine the horses.
Our 6-year-old mustang gelding developed a small (about 2" x 1/2")
barely raised oval shaped sarcoid under his chest fairly
close to his right front underarm area. This area is not
touched by the girth or any other equipment. To my knowledge he
has not injured that area before. It was treated by the vet with
liquid nitrogen and seemed to get worse after that and ulcerate with
one area of tissue jutting out. It increased in size to
about 3" x 1". I can feel involvement of the tissue
beneath the skin but does not feel very deep. It seems to me that
it is a distinct area at this time. From discovery to diagnosis to
treatment all taking place within 6 months. We have
recently been keeping it flyfree with Biozide gel applied
liberally once per day. Prior to that we noticed the small flies
were very attracted to it. There is no pussy discharge but the
sarcoid is open where the tissue has risen from the skin. Is
there any topical treatment that you are aware of that we can apply to
this sarcoid to either stop its growth or "kill" it? Thank you, Leigh
Kneeshaw
Dear Leigh,
Unfortunately as you have experienced, sarcoids have a way of coming
back after treatment, often worse than they were before. There
are many topical treatments available with mixed results
reported. I would recommend you consult your local veterinarian
to guide you in the treatment of this tumor, as the best chances you
have for success are by early and appropriate follow-up
treatment. A biopsy might also be helpful if one has not already
been done. Often surgical excision combined with either topical
or injected chemotherapeutic agents is successful.
Hello I am
currently looking at a coming 2 year old to purchase for a Hunt Seat
horse. As a yearling the colt cracked his splint bone but it was not
displaced and did not require any surgery to repair it. The owner said
it swelled up but he was never lame on it. What concerns should I have
about this? If I re x-ray it will that tell me if the splint bone has
healed okay? Thank you for your time, Erin
Dear Erin,
Radiographs could certainly help determine rather or not the fracture
has healed, which it sounds that it has. However, a bony
exostosis or callous can form due to splint bone fractures and these
can sometimes cause impingement on the soft tissues on the back of the
leg, particularly the suspensory ligament. A thorough exam is
indicated and an ultrasound might be warranted as well. If there
is bone putting pressure on the tendons and ligaments it could cause
lameness. Even so, a vast majority of splint bone problems do not
cause any problem at all. – Dr. Symm
My horse has a breathing problem. I say it
that way because it is not all the time. I have been told he has a
fleshy palate, and that sometime his esophagus gets stuck on it.
However when I hold my hand over his left nostril he is quite. When he
gets very excited and over exerts himself. Such as a trail ride with
other horses, he gets very loud and after the ride I have noticed
a heave line. As soon as her relaxes and calms down it goes away. My
vet does not think he is a roarer because it is not all the time.
He doesn't want to scope him because he thinks it is a palate issue but
I can't seem to get it to dislodge. What could it be? Dennie
Dear Dennie,
There are many different structures that can lead to airway noise and
dysfunction. The upper respiratory tract is a common cause of
inspiratory and expiratory noise. Dysfunction of the soft palate
can be challenging to diagnose, however a resting endoscopic exam would
be helpful to rule some of the other causes of respiratory noise
out. If a diagnosis is not reached with the resting exam a
treadmill exam could also be useful. – Dr. Symm
My seemingly healthy 3 yr old gelding was vet
checked for a pending sale. The vet found a heart murmur and after
strenuous exercise said there was a significant irregular heartbeat on
his right side.
He has not been exercised regularly as he is not under saddle and it’s
the dead of winter with 4 feet of snow on the ground. He appears
extremely healthy.
How concerned should I be? What if anything should I do for him? How
will this affect his life span? Should I not market him for sale?
Thanks you very much, Lisa
Dear Lisa,
Most heart murmurs and arrhythmias do not cause problems, but there are
some that can cause exercise intolerance and lead to poor health.
A thorough cardiac exam including echocardiography, or an ultrasound of
the heart, and an ECG might determine rather or not your horse has a
non-pathogenic problem. – Dr. Symm
I have a 17+-year-old appendix, which up until now has been "healthy as
a horse" (sorry for the pun). I am not sure of his exact age because he
doesn't have papers. He has always been a very willing, honest horse. I
am working with a vet who is scratching her head as to what his problem
is. Looking back, symptoms may have started a couple months ago, but
only became obvious in the last two weeks. Here is a rough timeline:
Prior to 2/3/08 Kicks when groomed around flank area, both sides before
being ridden and kicks when asked to pick rear right hoof. After riding
easy to groom and pick all hooves. 2/3/08 Difficult to mount. Kicks
when asked to move hind to left. Rears when going through soggy area.
Would not let me pick right rear hoof after riding. 2/5/08 Chiropractor
sees him says he is sore at base of withers, which she doesn’t think is
saddle soreness because after she works on him it seems to be relieved.
Notes that he is very sore beneath floating ribs on both sides. 2/8/08
I do not ride because he kicks when I try to groom girth and flank
area, both sides. He is eating hay and I am messaging right shoulder.
He turns and bites me. 2/14/08 Vet examines Eli. She checks hooves,
soundness, teeth, temperature, fecal sample, blood, gut sounds. When
her assistant lunges him to either side he rears, bucks, and jumps with
all four feet off the ground. He is a little worse to the right.
Her possible diagnosis and reasons why she isn’t sure of them or has
rules them out: Ulcers: Fecal sample says no; Tying up: blood work
rules this out; ESPM: Occurs in younger horses, and change in diet.
Horses are unable to cross-pelvic line. Eli is able to cross back legs
no problem. EPT: Affects neurological awareness. Eli passes with flying
colors. Tends to attack one side. Eli’s soreness is on both sides.
I am sorry this is so long; I'm just looking for any and all wisdom.
Thank you for caring. Liz
Dear Liz,
It sounds like there could be many different causes for the behavior
that Eli is exhibiting. I would recommend a complete and thorough
lameness exam. One potential possibility for an orthopedic cause
for the lameness could be upward fixation of the patella. Nerve
and or joint blocks could be used to help rule out other causes for the
lameness. Unfortunately with such signs it can be difficult
determining exactly what is causing the lameness and your veterinarian
might be left with trying multiple things before any one thing is met
with success. The fecal blood test for ulcers is not very
sensitive and it might be a good idea to either scope Eli’s stomach or
empirically treat for ulcers if they are a suspicion. – Dr. Symm
Geriatric Pony
My geriatric pony had 2 episodes of choke during the last 6 months that
resolved spontaneously within an hour or so. The 3rd episode occurred
over Christmas and did not clear itself. The vet could not pass a
nasogastric tube, why was this and what can be done in such cases?
Ultimately the pony developed severe pain in his gut and I had to
euthanase him. – Gillian Mazure
Dear Gillian,
Whenever a horse gets a choke or something lodged in its esophagus
there can be damage done to the lining. Once we resolve a choke we
scope the area and see how much damage is there. If there is an
ulcerated area or angry tissue then those horses are put on a gruel
feed and possibly antibiotics until the area is healed. Horses can also
develop strictures in the esophagus from a choke. We will sedate the
horse and use a stomach tube to try to lavage and break the choke up.
If the choke cannot be resolved while standing, then we anesthetize the
horse and try to lavage it that way. Sometimes horses become choked on
a foreign body other than feed and some of these horses have to have
the object removed surgically by cutting into the esophagus. This is
not a minor procedure and can lead to complications. Also, in any
geriatric horse it is a necessity to have regular teeth work done so
the horses can masticate their food properly. I am sorry to hear about
your pony. I hope this information helps. - Dr. Martin
Weaning 20 month old gelding
My mare will not wean 20-month-old gelding. I wanted to let
weaning take place naturally without separation, as I did not breed
mare again. I have been told to use Drixoral to dry her up-
although her bag has not been big for quite some time. Is it
possible that the yearling just likes to suck? Any idea why the mare
will not wean? - Maxie Register
Dear Maxie,
The foal needs to be taken completely away from the mare. As long as
they are together the foal will likely try to nurse the mare. The mare
is not providing the foal any measurable nutrients at this point. If
the mare was re-bred, then when the mare foaled she would probably not
allow the previous foal to nurse. But, it is still best to separate it
from the mare for a period of time. - Dr. Martin
Lumps on Sheath
My horse has two golf ball size lumps at the end of each side of his
sheath. The local Vet has looked at them. She found no soreness,
no sign if infection, we Large Animal blood profile on him everything
looked ok. I have given him more area to move and it seemed to help
along with hot compress a couple times a day. I worry about
cancer but don't want to over react if this is just a winter time,
unusually icy condition situation. I guess my question is what
would be different if this was cancer without taking the biopsy.
Would the biopsy be definitive? – Laurie Edwards
Dear Laurie,
A biopsy should give a definitive diagnosis as to what the mass is.
Discuss your options with your veterinarian and see if a plan cannot be
established to figure out what is going on. - Dr. Martin
Twenty six year old rescue horse
I am currently undergoing the rescue of a senior malnutritioned mare,
approximately 26 years of age. She only has her front teeth, her feet
are in terrible shape, cracked and way overgrown, she is not fed
properly, the top of her hips and back has caved in from being way to
skinny and it appears she has a large belly all towards the bottom so I
am guessing she has worms as well. I don't believe she has ever been
vaccinated either. My plan is to try to rescue her and get her medical
attention immediately or have animal control take care of this matter
so she is not in my care quite yet but I am just trying to get some
advice on the type of food I should be researching because she doesn't
have all her teeth, and how I would go about taking care of her because
obviously treatment will be extremely important. She is neglected so
she will probably be put under a lot of stress once she is being worked
with. Any advice would be great! Thank you! – Pederzolli
Dear Pederzolli,
You need to consult with your local veterinarian about the care and
maintenance of this horse. This is not an easy task you are under
taking and there could be many complications along the way. The horse
might not ever recover from the malnourishment. It needs to have a
complete physical exam with blood work and then teeth work,
vaccinations, and de-worming according to your vets recommendations. It
will be a slow and long process. - Dr. Martin
De-worming and low white blood cell count
My vet has recommended "power packing" my horse because he had a low
white blood cell count. Is this common? I've tried to
research this, but I have not found a connection between parasites and
low white blood cells (except for EPM) which; I believe, would be
treated differently. I did see some research that showed a
correlation to high white blood cell count and parasites. - Lynn
Dear Lynn,
There are many things that can cause a low white blood cell count. It
sounds like to me that you need to talk to your vet and find out why
they have decided on that plan of action. Without seeing the horse or
knowing more of the history I could only speculate as to what the vet
is thinking. I agree that with the many causes of a low white blood
cell count, parasites might not be first on my list. But I do not know
the whole story so I would ask the vet why they think there is a
connection. - Dr. Martin
I had a 3 year
old Morgan mare on pre purchase trial. She was being fed 5 lbs of
grain a day. We thought that was the habit of her owners - but
after a week we saw that she didn't eat much hay. The hay at our
barn is locally grown with a 14% protein and smells so delicious I want
to eat it. She wasn't interested. Then I remembered they
had her teeth done twice this year - so maybe they were trying to get
to the bottom of it.
She did not pass the vet check for confirmation and I returned her -
but I wonder if this was another problem. She was small and
immature. Her sire was lanky - so maybe holding weight is an
issue. Could this have been an indication of a problem? – Carol
Some horses have to become acclimated to new hay. I have had horses
that will not eat top quality alfalfa because they are not accustomed
to it. Having said that I would probably want to do a full oral exam to
make sure there is not anything unusual going on in the mouth. Without
doing a complete physical and possibly blood work it is hard to
determine if there were underlying problems. Thanks. Dr. Martin
Hi Doctor,
I am looking at an 9 year old gelding barrel horse to buy. The lady
says that he has Arthritis in his Stifle. Her vet thinks he was born
with a flatter stifle joint than most horses and due to a high impact
sport and wear and tear caused some arthritis. What can be done to help
prevent this problem or at least make it so he can compete comfortably?
Also I was wondering if injecting a horse with these kind of problems
helps them in the long run, or are they just good for a couple years?
Please let me know. – Amanda
Dear Amanda,
There are several different ways to address this problem. The first
thing I would want to do is a lameness exam and determine if the horse
is showing any lameness in the stifle or any other places. I
would then want radiographs of the stifle since there does seem to be
some history with it. Oral joint supplements, Legend, Adequan and
joint injections can all be helpful in cases of arthritis. But you
need to determine how advanced the arthritis is and whether your vet
thinks the problem can be maintained with medication. Also, if you plan
on selling the horse some day will the prospective buyers want
a to purchase a horse with an arthritic stifle. Soft tissue
problems can cause problems in the stifle as well. I would be very
cautious and make sure a thorough pre- purchase exam was done on this
horse. Thanks. Dr. Martin
Dear Doctor,
A 4-year-old large pony had been in the
pasture for a few months since it was worked last. Once it was
worked it was given a flexion test by a vet and he described that the
suspensory ligament was very sensitive to the test. He
discontinued his examination at this point. This seemed to be
related to the SDFT since the next step may have been to test the
DDFT. My question is: If the pony was to be gradually
worked over a period of time to reach performance levels would the
sensitivity be reoccurring? If so, what would be the specific
exercise to overcome such discomfort for the pony. Also, if the
pony was started to young to perform could it interfere in the
development of these tendons? Thank you for the opportunity to
communicate this situation and I look forward to a prompt response. –
Matt
Matt,
The first thing that needs to done is to get a definitive diagnosis on
what area of the limb is actually injured or sore. An ultrasound exam
of the flexor tendons and suspensory ligaments is a very good way to
diagnose these problems. Once a diagnosis has been made then a
treatment plan and prognosis could be established. But a complete
lameness exam and diagnosis needs to be made before a rehabilitation
plan is started. Thanks. Dr. Martin
Dear Doctor,
My mare is probably 15 or 16 yrs old, over the summer her eye started
turning cloudy and today it is colder out her eye is runny and stuff is
kind of running around I brought a warm cloth and wiped the area, she
acted like it felt pretty good of course I know that won’t fix nothing
but I really would like to know if you think that it is a cataract and
can those be fixed and or is she maybe going to go blind in one eye?
Let me know what you think. Thank you, Wanda Gale Pearson.
Dear Wanda,
In my opinion, all problems with the eye itself should be regarded as
emergencies. I think you need to have the horse examined by your
vet and try to determine what exactly is going on in the horse’s
eye. There are several different approaches to handling horses with eye
problems depending on the problem. But without knowing what is actually
going on in the eye, any advice that I would give you is just
speculation. Thanks. Dr. Martin
Dear Doctor,
We're considering buying a beautiful 6 year old Tennessee Walker. He
has a club foot, which does not affect his gait in any way. My concern
is it the club foot likely to become worse as he gets older? The
farrier just seems to file the foot, and really hasn't been a issue for
the horse. I believe he was born with it. – Lisa Huurman
Dear Lisa,
Since the horse
is six years old I doubt the foot will get worse. You didn't mention to
what degree the horses problem is. But if the horse is indeed sound
than I would think this would be more of a shoeing issue long term. I
would definitely get your vet to do a pre-purchase exam and find out if
your vet has any reservations about possible complications from the
club foot. Thanks. Dr. Martin
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